Subject	Re: B&B is still less noise then straight pipes so I would argue
Posted by	ni[X]it on July 31, 2003 at 11:15 AM
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In Reply To	B&B is still less noise then straight pipes so I would argue posted by YugoBernie (NoVA) on July 31, 2003 at 11:04 AM
Message	:that it falls into Nick's criteria of what a *muffler* system "should do". SHRUG. If i'm gonna buy a one THOUSAND dollar exhaust, it shouldnt have one performance feature (ie, flow). It should be the end all, be all exhaust. It should perform well, and be quiet too. (to prevent police on lookers). I can match the performance AND looks of the B&B exhuast for roughly $400.oo using off the shelf bits. For one THOUSAND US DOLLARS, the B&B does not perform well. You can get open exhuast pipes made for $40.oo and match the SOUND and PERFORMANCE of B&B. As for his "custom" set up all I remember about it was that he wasn't happy w. it when I asked him about it @ Zcon. I don't recall that. When I had dynoed, I had low numbers. I was assuming it was the exhaust. But my latest dyno (1 month ago) proves otherwise. (330/360 at 11.5 to 12psi) I am happy with my exhaust for what I paid for it. No different then Kuhmo tires. For the price, you cannot beat the bang for the buck. Best of all, I can hear myself fart in my car. I'm willing to sacrifice 5 to 10 rwhp to hear my farts. A Quiet **AND** fast car is much more impressive then a REALLY loud and fast car. It's even more impressive then a really loud and slow car. (ie V6 mustangs). AND the B&B has 2 substantial bends on each pipe. Substantial. Petz #3
Follow Ups	POLL: Those of you who inquired about the Oval Labree tips>> - SeedyROM 22:23:18 07/30/03 Get B&B (n/m) - Snoguitar 22:29:54 07/30/03 LOL (n/m) - Halo Z 22:30:11 07/30/03 Make them look more like the B&B ovals and I'm in - FireMedicZ 22:30:36 07/30/03 put me down for a 100% positive - alcky 22:31:36 07/30/03 I'd have to pick the circles unless the ovals become more - shirow 22:34:18 07/30/03 2nd (n/m) - Guapo 22:36:35 07/30/03 Get B&B :) (n/m) - splitc5r1 22:37:58 07/30/03 yup.. either b&b match or the circles (n/m) - GodZilla(noVA) 22:47:57 07/30/03 I don't know if that's an option. I'll check. (n/m) - SeedyROM 22:54:24 07/30/03 I plan on going with the Lebree, ovals would be nice (n/m) - creamofthecrop7 22:40:03 07/30/03 Hmmm. Would have to see them on a Z. (n/m) - Good2Zya 22:41:00 07/30/03 Is the X-pipe the same? - Sportzcoop 22:41:01 07/30/03 Same one. Just buy the mufflers then :) (n/m) - SeedyROM 22:53:08 07/30/03 no money left. :( (n/m) - Sportzcoop 23:23:02 07/30/03 Ryan, do those flow as good as the LaBree exhaust that Zo - Z1TRUTH 22:46:17 07/30/03 Pretty damn close to them. - SeedyROM 22:52:52 07/30/03 I bet its negligable! If it is, I'd like the ovals. Either - Z1TRUTH 23:20:05 07/30/03 He'll know the price soon. (n/m) - SeedyROM 23:25:58 07/30/03 Here is my on going exhaust experiment, and similar oval tip - colocomp (CRUZ) 22:51:45 07/30/03 Looking at the magnaflows, I made a mistake on the - colocomp (CRUZ) 23:00:09 07/30/03 Learn how to take lighter pics so we can see them :) - Woody75 (Denver) 23:03:15 07/30/03 Don't be hatin...:) (n/m) - colocomp (CRUZ) 23:07:08 07/30/03 *cough* intercooler money *cough* (n/m) - Tikigod ZX 00:36:12 07/31/03 for wagz and myself - Jjzx 23:23:16 07/30/03 that still looks tiny? (n/m) - Wagz 23:30:46 07/30/03 probably cuz i didn't change the canister - Jjzx 23:33:41 07/30/03 ya-i like my pumpkin shooters! (n/m) - Wagz 23:40:49 07/30/03 get a pic of the oval at the same angle as the car for ps... - Longhorn20 23:29:23 07/30/03 and for you quad oval fans - Jjzx 23:33:12 07/30/03 LOL the second one looks good...wtf is the first? - SeedyROM 23:36:05 07/30/03 somewhat...but you are simply stretching the circles... - Longhorn20 23:42:37 07/30/03 Re: POLL: Those of you who inquired about the Oval Labree tips>> - Island Maverick 00:11:14 07/31/03 Not just yet. soon. (n/m) - SeedyROM 00:28:50 07/31/03 i like the round best PS:speedy u got a 350z - wakesta7 00:24:12 07/31/03 or who evers car that is (n/m) - wakesta7 00:25:43 07/31/03 Got the frame at Nissan long before the Z came out :) - SeedyROM 00:29:20 07/31/03 /whois speedy (n/m) - Snoguitar 00:34:07 07/31/03 ya i like the round - Ro77y 01:58:01 07/31/03 Count me in for the ovals - Shift_(ATL) 02:08:58 07/31/03 GB on B&B alike ovals? :-) (n/m) - FLY 1 (Dallas) 04:08:53 07/31/03 Damn. Now I know how all those guys who spent big $$$$ - JRH(KY) 07:29:21 07/31/03 boo hoo (n/m) - aliaZ 09:37:59 07/31/03 Very well thought out response. - JRH(KY) 09:49:10 07/31/03 otherwise known as "conservation of effort" - aliaZ 10:01:15 07/31/03 I'm just asking LeBree to just think about my request. - JRH(KY) 10:46:08 07/31/03 How much innovation can be found in exhaust tips!? - Shift_(ATL) 10:53:58 07/31/03 I was speaking in a general sense, but I see your point - aliaZ 11:04:49 07/31/03 Bah, he's teasing. Don's given some very well thought out - Guapo 10:01:47 07/31/03 I'm speaking only of the tip design. - JRH(KY) 10:37:45 07/31/03 agreed. So, why not have the best of all 3 worlds? - Guapo 11:31:05 07/31/03 Because I'm a stingy, old SOB who doesn't want to share. - JRH(KY) 11:49:58 07/31/03 everyone is not only concerned with the look... - Longhorn20 11:52:51 07/31/03 Obviously you haven't read the responses in this thread - JRH(KY) 12:08:50 07/31/03 perhaps becuaue the question asked by the original - Guapo 12:15:38 07/31/03 this is a continuation of the post yesterday... - Longhorn20 12:38:18 07/31/03 i meant to say with the addition of specialtyz straight pipe - Longhorn20 12:45:51 07/31/03 I'm defensive? I'm bashing? - JRH(KY) 13:05:06 07/31/03 i never said we care more about performance than looks... - Longhorn20 13:48:26 07/31/03 2nd. Sorry man, but things change. You've had years to enjoy - hoss 09:57:17 07/31/03 B&B might be the first to use the squarish oval, be they - shirow 10:52:50 07/31/03 A) This is probably why they are NOT looking like B&Bs - SeedyROM 14:04:08 07/31/03 Argh. I don't like it. It would have to match the B&B better (n/m) - hoss 08:31:03 07/31/03 interested allthough im in australia - TritonZ 09:06:43 07/31/03 Funny thing is that THOSE look just like the EGG tips that - YugoBernie (NoVA) 09:20:16 07/31/03 B&B is full of bends. too damn many of them too. - ni[X]it 09:25:29 07/31/03 You're just bitter. (n/m) - YugoBernie (NoVA) 09:47:33 07/31/03 Here here! Totally agree. - hoss 09:51:49 07/31/03 I know you're just trying to be antagonistic but... - JRH(KY) 10:57:06 07/31/03 B&B is still less noise then straight pipes so I would argue - YugoBernie (NoVA) 11:04:49 07/31/03 Re: B&B is still less noise then straight pipes so I would argue - ni[X]it 11:15:30 07/31/03 Yawn. - YugoBernie (NoVA) 12:20:12 07/31/03 Re: I know you're just trying to be antagonistic but... - ni[X]it 11:20:54 07/31/03 Speaking of justification... - JRH(KY) 12:00:45 07/31/03 slight correction; - ni[X]it 08:32:11 08/01/03 Agreed. I don't like EGG tips at all. Classic B&B all theway (n/m) - hoss 09:46:44 07/31/03 LOL, Bernie...I didn't say the B&B were 90 degrees hahaha - SeedyROM 14:12:37 07/31/03 no comparison - madman99 14:42:49 07/31/03 I really like the ovals. - ni[X]it 09:23:45 07/31/03 what about Jim? (n/m) - Guapo 09:41:20 07/31/03 unavailable for comment (n/m) - Spee 10:37:29 07/31/03 vacation. (n/m) - ni[X]it 11:16:13 07/31/03 It's the squared off top and bottom on the B&B's >>> - ibrandt 10:28:51 07/31/03 Couldn't someone just get those welded on after buying the - hoss 10:44:57 07/31/03 Re: Couldn't someone just get those welded on after buying the - Guapo 12:17:27 07/31/03 Not those ones in particular I don't think. >>> - ibrandt 13:14:33 07/31/03 so? you weld them on off-center so the distance is the same - KILLR300ZX 13:18:11 07/31/03 B&B ovals are 4.5 wide each and sit right against each other - YugoBernie (NoVA) 17:43:40 07/31/03 Exactly. I was just demo'ing the shape. Did B&B clear your> - ibrandt 22:55:16 07/31/03 Have to mod tow hooks to fit with B&B exhaust - Got Z? 00:09:09 08/01/03
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